PRESIDENT
BUSH: Mr. President, welcome. Thank you very much for coming
here to Mount Vernon, and thank you for coming to the United
States. I think it's safe to say that you've impressed a lot
of people here on your journey. You bring a lot of energy,
enthusiasm for your job, love of your country, and a strong
set of universal values in your heart.
We just had an extensive conversation, one that you'd expect
good friends to have. We talked about Iran and the desire to
work jointly to convince the Iranian regime to give up their
nuclear weapons ambitions, for the sake of peace. We talked
about the Middle East and the upcoming talks at Annapolis,
Maryland. We spent some time on Kosovo, and I appreciate the
President's leadership on Kosovo.
I can't thank the President enough for his willingness to
stand with young democracies as they struggle against
extremists and radicals. And one such democracy is
Afghanistan. Mr. President, your leadership on that issue
for your country was very impressive. You sent a very clear
message. It's clear that you're a man who does what he says
he's going to do. It's the kind of fellow I like to deal
with.
And so, Mr. President, I also want to thank your
administration in your staunch -- strong stance for human
rights and human dignity. Whether they be to those who are
oppressed in Burma, or Darfur, or on the island of Cuba,
France's voice is important and it's clear that the human
rights of every individual are important to the world. And I
look forward to advancing peace and freedom with you, Mr.
President.
Our bilateral relations are important. They are strong
and we intend to keep them that way. And so, welcome here to
George Washington's old home. Proud to have you in America.
Thanks for coming.
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: (As translated.) I want to thank
President Bush, his administration, and all Americans who
have welcomed us in such exceptional fashion. I get the
distinct sense that it is France that has been welcomed so
warmly, with so much friendship, so much love. This was my
hope, my ambition. And with Bernard Kouchner, Christine
Lagarde, Rachida Dati and myself, this is exactly what we
wanted.
We've been very moved, deeply moved by your wonderful
welcome, together with Mrs. Laura Bush, yesterday at the
White House. I especially enjoyed the skit of the dialogue
between George Washington and Lafayette that we witnessed.
The tokens of friendship that we have seen since we've
been here, your open-mindedness and the fact that we can
address any and every subject -- all those that you
mentioned, sir -- even though the European defense policy
and NATO have also been addressed; environmental issues,
which are close to our heart; and Afghanistan. I said that
we would stay there because what is at stake is the
credibility of the Atlantic Alliance and the fight against
terror.
We spent hours discussing very important issues, commercial,
economic and others. And I will say that we have done so in
a spirit of openness and trust, and that is something I've
been particularly struck by. And I can tell you that this
visit I think has been very widely covered in France. So
when I say that the French people love the American people,
that is the truth and nothing but the truth.
Now, I expressed -- I spoke at length this morning and I
think the best would be that after President Bush -- whom I
wish to thank once again -- we could answer any questions
you may have.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Two questions a side. Deb.
Q Mr. President, you came down so hard on Burma and other
nations for their crackdowns on pro-democracy demonstrators.
Yet you seem to be giving Musharraf a pass. So the question
is why are you going so soft on Musharraf? Is there a double
standard?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I spoke to President Musharraf right
before I came over here to visit with President Sarkozy. And
my message was that we believe strongly in elections, and
that you ought to have elections soon, and you need to take
off your uniform. You can't be the President and the head of
the military at the same time. So I had a very frank
discussion with him.
Look, our objective is the same in Burma as it is in
Pakistan, and that is to promote democracy. There is a
difference, however. Pakistan has been on the path to
democracy; Burma hadn't been on the path to democracy. And
it requires different tactics to achieve the common
objective. And as I told you, I just spoke to President
Musharraf before I came here, and my message was very --
very plain, very easy to understand, and that is, the United
States wants you to have the elections as scheduled and take
your uniform off.
You want to call on somebody?
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: You know, in France, I don't choose, I
don't pick the journalists.
PRESIDENT BUSH: You don't get to choose? Who chooses? I
choose? (Laughter.) Who would you like me to choose?
(Laughter.) Oh, he chose. Wait a minute, it didn't last very
long, did it?
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: I didn't choose, I indicated a general
direction. (Laughter.)
Q Thank you, Mr. President. My question is on Iraq. Mr.
President, this morning you talked at length about
Afghanistan, Iran, but not Iraq. And I wanted to ask both of
you, is France reconciled with the United States, the United
States is reconciled with France? So what about Iraq? Can
France, for instance, help to get out of the Iraqi quagmire?
And President Bush, where do you stand on Iraq and your
domestic debate on Iraq? Do you have a timetable for
withdrawing troops?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't -- you know, "quagmire" is an
interesting word. If you lived in Iraq and had lived under a
tyranny, you'd be saying, god, I love freedom -- because
that's what's happened. And there are killers and radicals
and murderers who kill the innocent to stop the advance of
freedom. But freedom is happening in Iraq. And we're making
progress.
And I can't thank the President enough for sending his
Foreign Minister to Baghdad. It's a clear message that
freedom matters; that when people are struggling to live in
freedom, that those of us who have comfort -- the comfort of
a free society ought to help them.
We had a difference of opinion with your great country
over whether or not I should have used military force to
enforce U.N. demands. I reminded a TV reporter -- I don't
know if the person is here or not -- but I said, I just want
to remind you that 1441 was supported by France and the
United States, which clearly said to the dictator, you will
disclose, disarm, or face serious consequences. Now, I'm the
kind of person that when somebody says something, I take
them for their word.
Having said that, we had a difference of opinion. But I
don't sense any difference of opinion now that a struggling
democracy wants help from those of us who live in the
comfort of free societies. And, Mr. President, the strong
gesture of sending your Foreign Minister there wasn't a
message to the United States, because we're good friends; it
was message to the Iraqi citizens, that said, we hear your
cries for freedom, we want you to succeed -- because one of
the lessons of history is, free societies yield peace.
And so I appreciate your leadership on that issue and I
want to thank your Foreign Minister for -- I don't see your
Foreign Minister. Look, the guy was here. (Laughter.) Oh,
there he is, yeah, next to -- look, the President was
blocking; next to Madam Rice. Anyway, thank you, sir.
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: Allow me to give you two answers in one.
On Pakistan, yes, we're worried about the situation. It's
worrisome and we need to have elections as quickly as
possible. You cannot combat extremism using the same methods
as extremists, and it is very important, it is of the
essence that Pakistan organize elections. I, like President
Bush, I wish this to take place as speedily as possible.
Let me remind you that this is a country of 150 million
inhabitants who happens to have nuclear weapons. It is very
important for us that one day we shouldn't wake up with a
government, an administration in Pakistan which is in the
hands of the extremists. And we should, each and every one
of us, think about this, of the principles, the values that
we uphold and that we defend, and we must continue to
uphold. And then there's the complexity, as it were, in the
field. That's why it's important to convene elections, call
elections.
Now, on Iraq, Bernard Kouchner's trip to Iraq was very
successful. What does France want? A united Iraq. No one, it
is in no one's interest to see Iraq dismantled. We want a
democratic Iraq. We want a diverse Iraq, where each
component, component element of Iraqi society has learned to
live with others; an Iraq which can administer and govern
itself and that has the means of ensuring the peace and
security of every one of its citizens. And that was exactly
Bernard Kouchner's message when he went to Iraq. And this is
in the interest of one and all that it be thus. And that
position is the position I will defend until the end.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Toby.
Q Mr. President --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Which one?
Q Both of you.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Get moving, will you?
Q Okay. Mr. President, with oil approaching $100 a
barrel, are you concerned that your hard words for Iran on
its nuclear program are helping drive up oil prices, which
can end up hurting the U.S. economy?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No. I believe oil prices are going up
because the demand for oil outstrips the supply for oil. Oil
is going up because developing countries still use a lot of
oil. Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the
capacity to replace reserves is dwindling. That's why the
price of oil is going up.
I believe it is important for us to send clear signals to
the Iranian government that the free world understands the
risks of you trying to end up with a nuclear weapon. And,
therefore, we will work together to try to find if there's
not rational people inside your government who are tired of
isolation and who believe there's a better way forward.
Every time I give a talk about Iran I make sure I speak to
the Iranian people -- and I want them to hear once again
that we discussed your country today; that we believe --
that I believe that you've got a bright future; that we
respect your history and respect your tradition; however,
you are governed by people who are making decisions that are
isolating you from the rest of the world and you can do
better than that.
The idea of Iran having a nuclear weapon is dangerous,
and therefore, now is the time for us to work together to
diplomatically solve this problem. And we spent a lot of
time on the subject. And I thank the French President for
his resolve on solving this issue peacefully.
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: I just wanted to say that we exchanged
all the intelligence and information we had. It is
unacceptable that Iran should have at any point a nuclear
weapon. But Iran is entitled to the energy of the future,
which is civilian nuclear energy. I believe in the
effectiveness of sanctions. I believe even in the need --
(inaudible) -- the sanctions. But in my mind the two go
together, in other words, the open -- the outstretched hand
of dialogue, of continuing discussions -- because Iran
deserves a better fate than that isolation. And I cannot
imagine that there are not people, leaders in Iran who will
stop to think about the consequences of what is going on.
This is a great people and a great civilization, and we
must be firm for as long as there is no gesture on their
part. And we have to keep the way of dialogue open, because
we must do everything to avoid the worst-case scenario. And
this, indeed, was the subject of a very lengthy conversation
which showed exactly how convergent our views were.
Q Mr. President, with respect to your statements on
Afghanistan and France's commitment on engagement, does this
mean that France is going to be sending additional ground
troops to fight in the southern regions of Afghanistan, as
the U.S. wishes them to do?
How do you feel about the fact that France has been
engaging Syria on the upcoming Lebanese presidential
election? Do you think that's a good idea? And what are the
chances that Lebanon will have a presidential election by
November 24th? Thank you.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thanks, good question.
You want to go first?
PRESIDENT SARKOZY: Well, on Afghanistan, I said what I
thought and what I think. We've talked about it with
President Bush. We will not pull out of Afghanistan because
what is at stake here is the solidity of our alliance, and
ultimately what is at stake here is the fight against
terror. We're thinking about the best way to help bring
about a democratic Afghanistan. Is it by strength, in
stepping up our training efforts so that we lay the
groundwork or the basis of a modern Afghan state? Or is it
by other means? Maybe perhaps military means? We're still
thinking about it.
THE PRESIDENT: First of all, you know, the Syrian
influence in Lebanon was something that the previous
government and I worked on to -- collaboratively. And
because France and the United States worked together, we
passed 1551 Resolution out of the United Nations, which got
Syria out of Lebanon, by and large. And so we spent time
collaborating on how best to make sure that Syria doesn't
influence the presidential elections; that, in fact, the
presidency is picked by the Lebanese people.
And I'm very aware that Mr. Hariri and Nabih Berri are in
consultations as to whether or not they can come up with an
acceptable candidate to them, not to Syria; whether or not
the Lebanese people can be assured that their President is
going to be representing the people of Lebanon, not the
people -- not the government of Syria.
And I'm comfortable with President Sarkozy's government
sending clear messages that meet common objectives, and our
common objective here is for this Lebanese democracy to
survive, thrive and serve as an example for others.
We will work with France and with others to see that this
process be completed by November 24th. We believe it's in
the interests of the Middle East that this Lebanese
democracy survive. I want Lebanon to serve as an example for
the Palestinians, to show them what's possible. I believe in
a two-state solution. I believe there ought to be two states
living side by side in peace. So does the President; we
discussed that today. There's nothing better for the
Palestinians to see what is possible with a stable democracy
in Lebanon.
The interesting challenge we face in the world in which
we live is there are murderers who will try to stop the
advance of democracy, particularly in the Middle East. Isn't
it interesting that the places where there's most violence
is where there's young democracies trying to take hold,
whether it be Iraq or Lebanon or in the Palestinian
Territories? And the call for nations such as ourselves is
to support those who want to live in freedom. Freedom is the
great alternative to the ideology of people who murder the
innocent to achieve their political objectives -- by the
way, the very same ones that came and killed 3,000 of our
citizens.
And so what I'm telling you is -- let me end this press
conference by telling you this: I have a partner in peace;
somebody who has clear vision, basic values, who is willing
to take tough positions to achieve peace. And so when you
ask, am I comfortable with the Sarkozy government sending
messages -- you bet I'm comfortable.
Mr. President, thanks for coming. I appreciate you being
here.